A Muddled Take on Religion v Atheism

This piece appeared over a week ago, but I don’t want to forget it, since it seems to take an approach I find attractive: that many of our philosophical problems exist because we frame them incorrectly. We project human protocols onto the universe at large, to domains where they don’t apply. (And how science fiction helps exercise the mental muscles needed to consider such thoughts.) Alas, now that I’ve read it, I am disappointed.

Big Think, Jack Symes, (17 Oct 2026): Beyond religion and atheism: The secret third answer to big questions, subtitled “Philosopher Jack Symes explores the space between devout religion and atheism.”

Symes is the author of Defeating the Evil-God Challenge: In Defence of God’s Goodness (2025), from Bloomsbury Academic. (So it’s not self-published, which would be a red sign. On the other hand, the subtitle sort of gives his game away.)

This is a very long piece. I’ll try to locate the gist. But to sample the opening:

I think there are three fundamental questions in philosophy. The question of where the universe came from i.e. why is there something rather than nothing? The question of how the fundamental laws of nature came to be finely tuned i.e. the problem of fine-tuning and the problem of consciousness. How is it that our physical brains give rise to subjective experience? Why does the world smell, taste, or feel like anything?

And so on. Reasonable so far. He passes through the four ‘new atheists,’ rather dismissing them (as not being philosophers). And:

In 2010, Stephen Law published the evil god challenge and that’s the title of the paper. It was the most downloaded paper in one of the best journals Religious Studies and the third most cited paper as well.

The evil god challenge asks why belief in a good god is significantly more reasonable than belief in an evil god. Why do people believe in a good god and not an evil god? What argument can we give for one over the other?

Coincidentally, the Ted Chiang interview last weekend at World Fantasy Con discussed several of his stories. IIRC (it’s been years since I read the story) they discussed how “Hell Is the Absence of God” ends with the conclusion that God is… evil.

Moving on with Symes. He goes on about the first cause and the fine-tuning argument, which suggests to me he’s a rather old-fashioned philosopher. (That is, these arguments have been debunked in many ways.) He describes writing a book, addressing the evil God challenge,

And I found myself finding all of these asymmetries, all of these little arguments that favored good God over evil God.

So he throws out his manuscript and starts over, “in defense of God’s goodness.”

And here he’s off the rails. I’m skimming. Sigh. He’s in a religious bubble in which everything must be about existence and fine-tuning, consciousness which must evidence of *something* since we don’t completely understand it. And pantheism, which is somehow some kind of solution. The multiverse, the problem of evil. And so on and so on. (He never wonders why religion exists, given human evolution and the evolution of the mind.)

He ends by resorting to the argument that his world view makes him happier, in effect. I’ll quote the last few paragraphs.

The last thing to say is I think this is a significantly more optimistic worldview than atheism can offer. I I was believing in atheism as a worldview and thinking that the world on the whole was probably a worse place than it was a good place mainly because of evolution by natural selection. Right? and the religious believer has an extra card there. They can go, well, actually it’s not the fact that the world is merely a bad place because there’s this extra bit of the world, you know, heaven or God, something which outweighs the evil in the world. There’s this greater goodness, this bigger story beyond us.

In the same way, I think the multiverse pantheist can do the same. We’re just a speck, one little universe amongst an uncountable number or possibly infinite number of universes. Our world might be the worst of every single universe that there is. But we can be optimistic in knowing that existence on the whole is a good thing. That we can be optimistic in thinking we should be happy and pleased to be alive.

“But if you’re an atheist and you believe in the multiverse, then I think you should be bloody miserable.”

If you genuinely think it’s true, if you genuinely believe that every logical and metaphysically possible thing is happening right now across every single universe, then there are worlds which are just built so genocides can happen cyclically. That there are worlds where people are just tortured over and over and over again. There’s an uncountable number of evil acts happening all the time. And given the fact that there’s an uncountable number of evil acts and possibly an uncountable number of good acts, I don’t think that means you can weigh up the value of existence and be an optimist. At best, you can say that all breaks even.

No. Things just are. Being miserable is not about the state of the cosmos or the multiverse, it’s an attitude about human existence and interactions among human beings. The state of your life is unaffected by the existence, or not, of other universes, or of gods, frankly. Another category error, another confusion of domains.

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Brief takes.

The Atlantic, Luis Parrales, today 30 Oct: What Horror Films Have to Say About God, subtitled “Scary movies may appear irreverent or profane—but many of them are deeply interested in theological questions.” [gift link]

Is this is analogous to the UFO piece that never wondered what science fiction writers thought? The examples here are all movies, e.g. The Exorcist. So, yes. But I think it’s fruitful to consider what horror movies (and novels and stories) think. My preliminary conclusion (see Themes) is that horror is an intermediate step between fantasy and science fiction: fantasy is about projections of human nature onto reality, while horror acknowledges the reality of a vast, unknowable universe, and finds it *threatening* and *dangerous*. Whereas science fiction, like science, finds the unknowable universe attractive and open to exploration.

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And even more briefly.

  • Salon, Heather Digby Parton, yesterday: The GOP’s midterm plan: Make America hate Muslims again, subtitled “As the midterms slip away, Republicans are relying on anti-Muslim bigotry to turn out their base”
  • The Republican platform. Anyone but Christians: bad. Anyone but whites: bad. Anyone but Republicans: bad.
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Religion and Aliens

  • Scientific American on how religions might react to the existence of aliens (while ignoring the insights of decades of science fiction writers);
  • Oakland is one of the US’s best cities…;
  • David Wallace-Wells spells out 12 reasons why the Trump era is fading.
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It’s always interesting when the mainstream media takes on a subject thoroughly examined, for decades, by science fiction. Which is to say, don’t expect any new insights here.

Scientific American, Adam Kovac, today: Can the world’s religions survive the existence of aliens?, subtitled “Finding alien life could shake some people to their very souls, but different religions can take very distinct approaches to the existence of extraterrestrial life”

This echoes David Brin’s discussion of the Disclosure Cult.
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More Evenly Distributed

  • More of those videos about evolution and homosexuality;
  • Paul Krugman invokes William Gibson in his concerns about AI;
  • Brief items about Orwellian tactics, short-term selfish thinking, and the arrogance of the religious.
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That video I posted yesterday about homosexuality turns out to be last in a series, from a Facebook newsgroup called AD1 Explains, described only as a “Digital Creator.” If you go look at their reels you can scroll down and see many on various topics, including this one.

I think I thought I was posting the first in this series yesterday, when somehow I posted the last in the series instead. Here’s the first, I hope.

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There Is Nothing Wrong with You

  • Malcolm Gladwell on misunderstandings about gun violence;
  • Kevin Kelly’s proposal for a universal national service;
  • A video that explains why homosexuality has evolutionary advantages;
  • Jim Palmer on religion’s biggest lie: sin;
  • Brief links about Hegseth’s faith advisor, RFK Jr., how the Supreme Court approves every religious privilege, how Trump seems immune from jail, how Trump has failed, how Trump is sowing doubt about the upcoming elections, how the stamp of MAGA is being cruel, how Robert Reich says Trump wants to imprison him, how a MAGA activist thinks Noah’s flood was due to gay sex orgies (!), how a pastor with two wives thinks God approves of him, how Tony Perkins advises voters to vote according to Biblical values, how red states are restricting education to traditional American themes, and how there’s no evidence that voting machines flip votes.
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A lot of things to note today. Let’s focus on the non-fringy ones first.

LA Times, Shelby Hartman, today: Malcolm Gladwell thinks everything you know about gun violence is probably wrong

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The Disclosure Cult

  • David Brin on the UFO cult, which he now calls the Disclosure cult;
  • A forthcoming book about the nature of human intelligence;
  • Brief items about the term DARVO, Tina Peters’ defense as a “person of faith”, Trump and Republican priorities, and Laura Ingraham’s claim of a leftist plot to overtake the government.
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Let’s lead with this today: the latest David Brin post about the ongoing UFO mania, in which the evidence has never gotten any better than it was 70 years ago. Brin is now calling it the Disclosure cult, and suggest it’s just as crazy as the MAGA cult.

Contrary Brin, David Brin, yesterday 25 Oct: “Disclosure’ UFO cults get worse, even as we try to restore sane politics.

Brin often sounds like a prototypical crazy uncle, except that I think most of his points are valid.

So. Why do I classify UFO nuttery with MAGA? First there’s the blatant overall goal: using X-Files to distract from Eps-Files….
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Failure to Learn

  • Steven Strogatz on the AI crisis in mathematics; is it OK to be given the answers, without figuring them out for ourselves?
  • How religious zealots mock scientific understanding, since scientific conclusions can change;
  • Briefly: another comment about Rubio’s defense of Western civilization; how David French thinks there is no bottom to MAGA; Heather Cox Richardson recounts how the Republican victories in 1920 led to the 1929 Crash; and Nicholas Kristoff on the pillars of our nation — education, immigration, and legal and social norms — that are on the current ballot.
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Humanity only advances by learning from the lessons of the past. No one person can learn everything about modern civilization by themselves, from scratch. But are we now stuck in a cycle of repeated failures, unable to learn? (Or refusal to learn?) (Or failure to launch?)

Is it about the journey, or the destination?

The Atlantic, Steven Strogatz, today: A Mathematician Reads the AI Future, subtitled “My field is as much an expression of the human spirit as music and literature. Is it for the machines now?”

Strogatz is a mathematician and author. I have his book about calculus.
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Passing Through World Fantasy Con 2026

I didn’t attend the World Science Fiction Convention a few months ago, in Anaheim, but I had thought to attend its fantasy counterpart this month since it’s being held in downtown Oakland, just a few miles from me. I wouldn’t need to rent a hotel room; I could drive back and forth each day (even though many of the events at such gatherings occur in the evening, often until late hours, not to mention ordinary gatherings at the bar). But then I waited too long to buy a membership, and found them no longer for sale as of earlier this week, and found daily passes (which Worldcons used to offer) unavailable. Still, inquiries led me to acquire a “Locus staff” badge, and I used it to attend the convention yesterday, Friday, from 10am to 4pm or so. (Not that there were any careful observers keeping non-members out of event rooms.)

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Evolutionary Tradeoffs, and Nonintelligent Design

  • How the evolution of the human brain made us vulnerable to Alzheimer’s;
  • Kibble: Hegseth’s staff broke Eisenhower’s globe; a MAGA host who thinks witchcraft is real; most evangelicals do not consider empathy a core moral value; false Christian Nationalist history from Rob McCoy.
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Today’s thought piece.

Keep in mind that evolution doesn’t “care” about anything; organisms that survive natural selection (or environmental filtering, another term someone used) do so by reproducing, and once they’ve done that, it doesn’t matter what happens in their “old age.”

The Atlantic, Adina Wise, 18 Oct 2026: The Evolution of the Human Brain Set It Up for Failure, subtitled “The genetic changes that made the human brain may have made us uniquely vulnerable to Alzheimer’s.”

Apes don’t develop Alzheimer’s—at least, not like we do. Although we share a hefty amount of our DNA with our closest primate relatives, humans are uniquely at risk of developing the disease that can erode our sense of who we are.

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What Would Be the Cure for Being Human?

  • Jim Palmer’s six existential realities that humans try to escape…;
  • Short items: Fox News provides the conservative need for the panic of the day, or month; even National Review calls out Trump as shameless; Pete Buttigieg on how Republicans take credit for Democratic projects; and how Christian Nationalists are plain about their intentions to “seize power.”
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I briefly noted this piece back on 9/24. Let’s spend a little more time with it today. What does he mean by “trying to escape”? This goes to the core of his metaphysics, which I still haven’t exactly figured out.

Jim Palmer, Deconstructionology, 23 Sep 2026: There Is No Cure for Being Human, subtitled “The Six Existential Realities We Spend Our Lives Trying to Escape”

It’s 37 screens long, on my big laptop. Just write a book and be done with it! Let’s see if we can find his six.

Here’s part of his preface:

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The Biggest Inflection Points

  • Big picture: What we know about how life arose: a good summary by NYT’s science writers;
  • Relatively trivial items: Vance lies about gas prices; men in groups; Edsall on Trump’s real agenda; Krugman on how Trump actually hates America and what it stands for; Reich criticizing the NYT for its false equivalencies; and Heather Cox Richardson on charges from a decade ago that Trump is Putin’s puppet.
  • Mahler’s Das Lied von der Erde.
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Decent summary. Not sure of the occasion.

NY Times, William J. Broad, Kenneth Chang and Carl Zimmer, yesterday 19 Oct: How Did Life Arise? [gift link]

Subtitled: “Where did it start? How did it grow complex? Why did it get big? Three moments in Earth’s early history when evolution suddenly, inexplicably turned up the dial.”

Apparently this is part of a NYT series called “Unknowns” — “A special project exploring unanswered scientific questions — the big mysteries about ourselves, our origins, our world and our universe.” — that also included that item about whether babies are conscious a couple weeks ago.

I’ll quote the intro:
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